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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:08:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things?
Because it's simply impossible without Links implants combat boosters and titan bonus or a special snowflake fit working under very specific circumstances that those players forget intentionally to bring to our knowledge.
A solo player with the bulkiest effective Tengu fit will get at best without specific implants boosters and whatnot a simple 50k EHP +/- Tengu with the best possible dps.
A fleet Tengu if you look at the fit you can probably laugh at it and ask if it's not a noob or a kid that build it, but it's done for a specific purpose under specific circumstances and no they will not get 200k EHP without several links/boosts and whatnot which on it's own it's a lie since links are the main cause of so much incomprehension, silliness and completely OP fits.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:13:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Grandma Squirel wrote:Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg well you clearly missed what I was going for. that's ok ;) you need implants if you want to T2 fit it for 700+ dps and 200+ k ehp, or like 2 faction mods. given the simplicity and irrelevance of the given task, I decided to make a fit that was as close to 700dps and 200k ehp as i could get. getting exactly 700dps without officer mods seemed impossible with 4 damage mods (in hind sight, i could have looked at using 5 damage mods). ehp was never going to be exactly 200k so i accepted 575 over as close enough.
With 4 simple T2 BCU's and HA spec at 4 only it's 850 dps, 800 with 3 T2 BCU's no dmg increase implants or rigs.
A T2 fitted Tengu you can't get 200K EHP out of nowhere, it's impossible without the addition of several bad implemented stupid mechanics.
The problem is not the Tengu or the faction mods you put in to gimp it, the problem is links and how OP those are.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:18:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:EFT seems to be a dying art... this is as close as I could get: Quote:[Tengu, Test]
Damage Control II
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Hakim's Modified Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 700dps 200,575ehp PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit
Why I don't kills on any Tengu fitted with such uberness?? -it's not because EFT says it's possible that it's something to do, do you fly often 800K++ EHP proteus?
NO? -Why so if they're so awesome?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
903
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:58:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point.
To counter an argument it's easy, pick EFT sort the dumbest thing you can to prove your point and that's it.
I have yet to be told to fly such crap the guy will get a finger. Snowflakes nothing but snowflakes.
Because of course I always fly in null sec without a point and web, My Tengu webs and scrams pilots down just by the sight of it...
Silly people...
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:59:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Mr Floydy wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. Pretty sure they would at times. If they have friends who are handling the tackle. They're probably just there to apply 900 dps or so ;) I can understand if you're gatecamping or null warfare in bubbles but tengu is hardly seen in either of those situations. I know it's a personal thing but ill be damned if im in a close range ship and not have a point
Even so, why take a Tengu over a double web armor Loki or an 18km scram Proteus to camp a gate unless you can't fly them?
-I'm not saying it doesn't succeed because it's pretty obvious it does specially with friends pinning stuff for it but each single ship without a point or web or both camping that gate are close to useless but just KM hoaring, if they want to add real dps they should take a Talos instead.
A double web Loki can be terrifying with its agility of a frigate and a good cruiser speed while armor tanked, dishes a very decent dps and selectable one on top without loosing any 10% uberness per level.
A scram/diruptor Proteus without a single link can point stuff very far away, has a decent tank and mobility with 800 plates and when it gets on top of its target just melts it (gank fits not another snowflake/slaved eft fit).
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
905
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:55:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:I'm not seeing it, at least not for PVP purposes, you start putting CNBC on it and deadspace/faction hardeners and it just gets expensive fast.
No prop mod..it's kinda rubbish.
You can drop the Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction and put on a ABII it fits and you no longer need the 1% PG but takes the EHP down to 113K.
[Tengu, Requested]
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile)
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Warp Disruptor II
3x Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
2x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Will require 1% PG implant
No other implants installed currently
Effective HP: 148,954
Tank Ability: 185.47 DPS
Capacitor (Stable at 53.66%)
DPS: 749.77
You're not going anywhere without a prop mod 
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
919
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Posted - 2013.07.02 10:56:00 -
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stup idity wrote:
[Tengu, tengu4]
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
6x Heavy Neutron Blaster II (Void M)
2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Zdat one is awesome, blasterGu best Tengu 
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
923
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Posted - 2013.07.03 10:30:00 -
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CcRaven wrote:[Tengu, 02]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Under 700dps (696 dps) , 205883 ehp , cap stable 80%.
All skills L5 , no implant/ link.
Much cheaper with t1 rigs.
You forgot to add "this dps is only possible at 25km with absolute perfect skills, range where HACs are effective enough to make these Tengus unworthy and BSs will eat them alive"
Now take some of those silly stuff over there to prove smack points and give those missiles range to make the ship much better by offering a larger window of engagement while still keeping a very decent tank.
EFT is cool, indeed.
It's like 1.2K dps Proteus, everyone flies those over BSs, I see entier fleets of them all over null....or not.
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